In latter 2011 the webmaster made what was intended to be a single page with perhaps ten links to some blues music on YouTube, no history in view. Yet those links necessitated others, then still others, until I realized a history was being made, a cloud history via YouTube. I put the art I was doing on a back burner and traded writing for quoting (such as Wikipedia). Then I discovered the perils of research, notably discography. To become a discographer wasn't in my plans when I innocently thought to address a history music. It can take hours to write three lines to some degree of satisfaction that one isn't entirely in error. In the meantime it would appear I that haven't much choice, to some degree of satisfaction. For histories of music are the better when they're accurate. Discographies, incidentally, began getting put together around World War II, upon the manufacture of 78s (V-discs: vinyl discs) which labels afforded little space for information (who is that on trumpet?). Since that time it's been a bit like catalogue numbers in classical music, which were an endeavor to make sense of opus numbers, which practice had begun about the period of Haydn, but for various reasons had come to a mess more confusing than clarifying. That is, discographies were an attempt to fill in missing data, there little documentation made or kept in early recording, then organize the mess and correct the errors. We don't do that here. We but endeavor accuracy in what discographers have already done. That alone can be pretty frustrating, so we can appreciate the enormous accomplishments of early discographers. Be as may, though accuracy is the premium, you can bet your paycheck that the histories are riddled with errors of one sort or another. Of minor note, though technically wrong for earlier issues of brittle shellac, the word "vinyl" is sometimes used colloquially as a generic term for 'issue", 'release", "record" or "disc" even though records weren't made of vinyl until the 45 RPM and LP replaced the 78. Finally, things got shifted about a bit in the making of this history so chapter numbers don't match webpage numbers. I shouldn't think that so confusing, though, as why they exist at all.
The YouTube cloud history
is intended to 1970 per issued debut recordings in all its categories. It currently includes classical music from medieval to modern composers born
(therefore publishing to roughly 1970),
blues music from inception to 1970,
music from inceptions (bluegrass, folk and country western) to 1970, jazz
from early influences preceding ragtime through swing and modern to 1970, and rock
music from inception to 1970. The history should be finished
with 35 sections by 2017. I had made 1980 my goal until I recognized that
would take a couple more years. Other projects put such
the commitment in the trunk where, once they go, it's generally kaput.
Photographs of musicians were chosen according to a simple system that makes them as random, thus impartial, as possible, to help keep me out of it. None were chosen due to personal tastes. The websites to which they link, however, are necessarily not random. Each website to which we link has been inspected and carefully considered. Are they, for example, safe? Do they provide more than cookies on computers? Do they load within this lifetime without browsing interference? Such, etc., are big concerns. (There are countless websites containing only just enough content to call them such and/or not existing to purposes expressed to search engines.) Be as may, random photos lend a vaster range of information, personality, color and culture from about the globe while at once maintaining anchor with more significant sites in the music field. (We both "appropriate" and remove "cultures" at will here, though link to nothing for political or religious reasons.) The number of times we point to the same website is to some degree a measure of the significance of that site. (A number of websites on which these histories have been heavily dependent, however, are poorly represented, if at all, per photo sources. See below for the elephants in discographical data and musical information on the internet.) As we wish links from this site to be an education in themselves per the global musical zeitgeist, as well as represent various aspects of music on the internet, we don't link to sites only because they have images (though in a few instances that occurs upon there being only one source for that particular randomly chosen photo). A few sites aren't 100% relevant to a music history, but they had the random photo, those apparently the more rarely published on the internet. Other sources are chosen per an equation between significance and variety with emphasis on musically historical relevance and/or substantial content per website as a whole. Some sources we're not real crazy about. Others are reference sites and/or otherwise of considerable quality which may not have been discovered without random process. Incidentally, Chrome quickly translates foreign pages into English with a right click on the page. As well, a huge image source on the internet is Getty Images, acknowledged less than more. In the course of these histories we've noticed Getty on an image branding campaign. We don't use branded images nor Getty's in especial, but innumerable photos on this site are property of Getty. For any and all mentions, as well as those missed or unknown, we credit Getty Images here once and for all.
At the top of each page artists are listed in alphabetical order. They are listed below that in chronological order by the year the artist is first found on disc ("vinyl"), alphabetical thereafter per year. Pages descend per the chronological chart. Release dates are guide albeit such is not always possible, recording dates to substitute. Classical composers are listed by birth rather than release dates. Performance or publishing dates may substitute for composition dates. Tracks per artist entry are listed in chronological order by year, then alphabetically by title (not by month or date). Classical tracks, however, are listed alphabetically by title, (not in order chronologically). Also per Classical, years at listing headers attempt to date years during which the musician was (possibly) actively composing in some manner. They are broadly circa and largely, though not exclusively, disregard childhood (juvenilia), but may account for unknown works, published or not, in early adulthood, college or study. End dates assume most composers were yet working at the time of their deaths excepting unique cases known otherwise.
We've discovered most YouTube dates to be amazingly correct, considering the high number of them. Our dates will nevertheless often differ from those at YouTube per recording versus release dates, etc.. (A song, for example, that was released in 1957 and reissued, rather than rerecorded, on a 1961 album at YouTube will still receive a '57 date.) As it is impossible to check whether every YouTube date is per session or issue, not a few release dates may be undistinguished from recording dates. As that can make a big difference we endeavor the distinction on more significant recordings but can't check them all. Such as album covers and record labels may vary as well between this site and YouTube. That is, they are recordings, not data, to which the histories point (albeit data discovered on YouTube channels has on occasion been indispensable). Something might have been recorded on Decca, for example, that can't be found except on a much later release by another label: whatever it takes to get what's needed listed.
Our object is to follow each band's or musician's career, often spanning genres,
decades, sometimes eras. Popularity (such as hit songs) is represented, though
at some sacrifice to breadth, each upon the priority of finding the earliest
possible recordings. Live performances are dated at the time of the performance,
though the artist may have recorded the song years earlier. Where dates are too
early for recording, or recordings are missing, more recent musicians or
versions may substitute (more obviously the case with Classical). In rare cases
a website other than YouTube may be used. As this is a history of performing
artists, with the exception of Classical, original composers are little
researched and little noted (one of the major shortcomings of this history). Tunes may or may not originate with respective musicians.
The need to
condense made composition largely another topic. Did I wish to beef up the
histories that's what I'd do next. Such would be huge job, however, and other
matters are now between. We also condense via
omitting other sorts of important information, such as session numbers unless they happen to be of particular importance
Some of the things we juggle for inclusion in the history:
1. Sound quality. Which often cannot be helped, but those with the software can make adjustments. (We ourselves, like most, are not so equipped.) Howsoever, both mono recordings and better sounding stereo versions may be listed per occasion. High quality remasters are also appreciated. Sometimes we're very lucky to find anything at all; sometimes there's so much that entries need be severely limited.
2. Basic information. Unless we already know the date or it is significant enough to hunt down, YouTube postings without recording or release dates are the most likely to be passed up. Some musicians or bands have countless recordings at YouTube. Since these histories need be condensed YouTube postings without dates sometimes become an editing tool. Data's not so much a criterion after that. Not all that much, but sometimes it's the kind of information that takes the cake, such as rare information, as compared to, say, loads of information, though we do note postings with a lot of work put into them relative to those with less. All else equal, maybe an image of a record label beats another photograph. But since few go to YouTube for that sort of information maybe lyrics with a collage whoops that. Who knows. Be as may, we point to YouTube for audio and video, not information. We get that at websites listed lower on this page.
3. Presentation: cutting off songs halfway through is always and in every case a no go. Early in this history we didn't recognize that such was actually done. I doubt we've yet uprooted them all but they are rare. Likewise, we can't include such as concert footage that begins, of a sudden, ten bars into a song.
4. All else equal, who do the least advertising on their channel always gain preference. We hardly dislike advertising in itself (some is quite good) and in various ways makes these histories possible (though there is none on this website). But it's the everywhere constantly-in-your-face, gonna-bug-you glut of it all without measure. You can't rest your cursor on a webpage without accidentally tapping an advertisement. Then you've got the especially masonic sort who after you x out of one advertisement they instantly block you with yet another. I place that type of insistent advertising on a level with phishing, scams, product "reviews" and rip-offs. It's worthless since the only thing I note, beyond brick upon brick of blockage of vision, is the x. Why don't I just move to the Walmart and live in total darkness like a tell-tale heart? Pink Floyd can do the soundtrack: "We don't need no advertisement..." I especially like the scene in which I'm reading along quietly and am suddenly blasted through brick, concrete and steel rebar by an audio ad. I wear a helmet when I use the internet for fast exits. Be as may, it is needful that people be able to use the histories with as little interference as possible.
5. We do endeavor to select the best YouTube presentations, knowing at once that we fail in that due that we can't search or compare exhaustively. Sometimes it's a minor detail, sometimes just dumb luck. Though perfection is to index titles individually we oft economize with such as albums, medleys, suites, 45s with both flip sides. That is, if some song isn't listed it may be on an album that is to avoid repetition. If a track is virtually the same on two different channels we try to list the older for reason of proper credit. All to say that we try to be fair but don't have forever. Howsoever, selections are per various particular needs. We keep track repetition to a minimum due to space limits. Something missing may be because it's already on that page or in another section, that way to represent the more. A good example of that is Billie Holiday and Teddy Wilson, their recordings together split between them rather than listing all twice. No telling how many other tracks on which some musician might be found via cross referencing, find, search, accident, ferry or fairy wand. Be as may, we're continually amazed at the more obscure material discovered at YouTube, otherwise lost to the world. In other cases like Beethoven or the Rolling Stones there's so much material that selection becomes a larger issue.
6. I don't suppose it can be helped that the history is a kind of 'The Best of YouTube'. That happens naturally, without intention, upon organization. Such as cylinder recordings made prior to the turn of the 20th century most definitely rate 'The Best of YouTube', with not a few others in these histories for any number of reasons. As well, the history is to some degree a musical rating system according to YouTube (a little like Billboard and Nielsen combined), edited by myself with emphasis on cultural and historical value. However, as a sort of YouTube rating system, such is qualified in that much that is popular at YouTube, or elsewhere, gets sacrificed to the more diverse or obscure. There is a little lessoning of major for sake of breadth. As for the numberless fine videos created at YouTube, into which people have put a lot of effort, we definitely note such. While audio takes precedence videos now and then substitute, especially if there is no lack for good audio but the video is premium.
7. The need to condense is the only reason many fine documentaries are not listed. That's a little ironic with a history, but it's a history of music rather than interviews or long narrations. Such are conceivable to append in some way in the future, but at present not listing such helps us keep within bounds.
8. Finally, MP4 is the format. Compatibility per who burn discs is the reason. AVIs and such present problems of inconsistency requiring special attention. There are a few of such yet in the history, due placing them before I recognized that. However, if something like an AVI is compellingly significant without alternative it will be included.
This page was made largely to thank the many great people at YouTube without whom this educational device would obviously not be possible. This history is but an archive of what each of thousands of music lovers have already done. It is entirely dependent on the generosity and stability of YouTube channels that get censored, come and go or rearrange things, thus a faulty link every so often. We try to avoid links that are meant to be temporary but it happens. It sometimes seems that the faster we make additions the faster they disappear (like the next day - it's happened). During our last link check we discovered missing links on a couple occasions that were the result of a musician's management requesting them to be removed. By this time (2016) management and others have pretty much sifted what will be on YouTube and what won't, at least in comparison to 2013. Be as may, who knows: Will this "cloud" history have remained largely intact a decade from now? Perhaps we'll see. If it's like my ride it will rust away.
This page was also made to thank the extraordinary musicians whose gifts this library helps preserve for the ears of much of the world. What makes life a whole lot better - music - oughtn't simply vanish from the majority on Earth who can in no way afford concert tickets. Howsoever, the history is intended to be just that. This isn't, ironically, a "Free Music!" website. On the other hand, some who use this history next go some place like Amazon and make a purchase. Seems a win-win that shows Viola fair. We make no money and promote nothing on this website to that purpose.
We also thank Google which brings us YouTube. I'm certain most are aware that Google pays big money for a good portion of what is freely available at YouTube. I've no estimate how much shorter this history would be if it didn't, but it would be a big bite. I think (I recall, good luck) it was about December of 2013 that YouTube began an aggressive campaign against copyrighted material that left many a bad connect. So many broken links resulted that we considered ceasing. That may or may not have assisted with the problem of a cloud history subject to evaporating links. (Piano pieces by Nat King Cole come to mind at the moment. The removal of those from YouTube was like losing Goldilocks' just-right bowl. Not a few significant tracks have disappeared from the history with the disappearance of channels as well.) Also thanks to Google this website has an all-important website search bar. Though it likely doesn't need to be said, Viola Fair isn't associated with YouTube in any way.
Other than not every YouTube date distinguished between recording and release, the major fault of this history is that we've not pursued it in the more scholarly manner of citing every source of information per every occurrence. I worked on the history for well over a year with no serious intent. I was at first content with Wikipedia until I discovered bad dates, probably via using All Music as well. (Like YouTube, recording rather than issue dates are often used at Wikipedia.) I then had the choice of wasting the history or getting the dates right. Then I discovered discography, and that such as "first recording dates" is appropriately qualified by "to the best of my knowledge". I've been continually embarrassed by some huge hasty errors. I remember placing a photo of Ted Heath, the Prime Minister, instead of the bandleader, for instance. Accounting errors with dates to be nigh as bad as the wrong visage, we've been driven hard to get them right. Certain of blunders nevertheless, we can't possibly cite every source of a bit this, a bit that, by which we've arrived to some finally agreeable conclusion. That is, many the source of an invaluable bit of information got lost along labyrinthine research concerning which this page cannot account. Whatsoever the error of our ways, our major sources have been:
Wikipedia. Which significance certainly matches ancient libraries (Alexandria, etc.). The histories were about five years in the making. Begun at truck stops with wi-fi, it would have taken forever at a library. What we've done in several brief years is the result of what others have spent lifetimes untangling. Howsoever, that it's true that Wikipedia requires verification, so does Britannica and, for that matter, every authoritative source to which we refer. Sometimes an inquiry gets so many differing answers, if any, that when two sources agree it can throw you from your chair.
All Music has been heavy duty to 20th century history, especially with bios. God knows how much of this history was assisted by authors at All Music, notably Scott Yanow, a major authority in the musical field who contributes to other websites and is quoted all over the internet. Being our initial main source with Wikipedia, All Music was our spearhead reference site and remains a major source. (You will need to clear your cache with All Music: major memory hog good at freezing computers. Though that repels visitation the site's information is otherwise excellent.) As for myself, Allmusic is so insistent on advertising in all possible ways that I no longer attempt to visit at all.) Discogs has been a major source for dates together with heavy use of 45cat. They have been as indispensable to the histories as Wikipedia. Other major sources for dates in general include Global Dog Productions, bdla, Musik Titel DB, Rate Your Music (another computer-freezing memory hog for which CCleaner was made) and Second Hand Songs (modern vocalists). Particularly helpful with later jazz have been All About Jazz and Jazz Times.
The Classical section simply wouldn't be without the Petrucci Music Library. Bach Cantatas helped us tie things together not a little.
Modern jazz sections would be a joke without the Jazz Discography Project (Walter Bruyninckx). Red Hot Jazz Archives has also been of considerable assistance. Elemental to jazz is Tom Lord's Discography. Per this writing dates have been largely compared to Lord's throughout blues, rock, and jazz to Sixties International. Deadline to have that last chapter finished is June, maybe July, of 2017.
As for charts: Billboard and Music VF. Nigh all chart information in Rock is per the latter. Needing to condense, the length of time songs remained on charts isn't usually pursued. That information is easily available at Music VF, among the most remarkable of our sources, listing charts since 1900.
Of major assistance to British recording has been British Modern Jazz.
Our Doo Wop section wouldn't be without Marv Goldberg's R&B Notebooks, Soulful Kinda Music and DOO WOP.
Other very helpful sites, with country and otherwise (rock), have been Praguefrank's Country Music Discographies, Rockin' Country Style, Roland Note, BlackCat Hall of Fame, The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, ROCKY 52 and Wangdangdula.
Another major contributor is Zarzuela per early Latin music.
Jazz Discography (Michael Fitzgerald) is connected with databases made with BRIAN that have clarified matters on numerous occasions. BRIAN is a program used by professional discographers that people with old record collections might use as well.
Both The Guardian and New York Times have been frequently consulted.
As well as Marc Myers. "Jazzwax" got written into many a search just to see what Myers might have to say about whatever.
We've done rather a lot of squinting and zooming throughout the history at Google Books. We can't recall every author but we've seen a lot of Scott Yanow (All Music, etc.). Google Books also made available such as 'The Rough Guide to Jazz', 'Goldmine Record Album Price Guide', 'Goldmine Standard Catalog of American Records 1948-1991', 'Goldmine Standard Catalogue of American Music 1950-90', 'Goldman Price Guide to 45 RPM Records' (Martin Popoff), 'American Singing Groups: A History from 1940 to Today', 'Encyclopedia of Rhythm & Blues and Doo-Wop Vocal Groups', 'Noise Uprising' (Michael Denning), 'The Dawn of Indian Music in the West' (Peter Lavezzoli), 'Uncloudy Days: The Gospel Music Encyclopedia', 'Synth Gods' (Ernie Rideout) and 'The Modern Language Reveiw Vol III'. We haven't had to squint at the 'Concise Oxford Dictionary of Music' (currently lost), 'Gumbo Drums' by John MacCalkies, 'The Rise of the National Jazz Tradition in Sweden' by David Tenenholtz, 'Boston Composers Project' (Ed: Linda Solow), 'Jazz and Death' by Frederick Spencer, 'The John Coltrane Reference' by Lewis Porter or 'The Music of Michael Nyman' (Pwyll ap Sion).
In addition to those not already mentioned, not a few of the websites below have been downright indispensible to the histories and some used extensively:
|45 Worlds 706 Union Avenue|
|AB Fable Archive Adale Amazon (reviews) Amoeba Andalucia And The Conductor Is Attic Toys|
|BB10K BBC Bean Benders Be Bop Wino BlackPast Boija Both Sides Now Brazilian Music Britannica (particularly classical) The British Sound|
|CBN Center for Jazz Studies at Columbia University Choro Music Chrome Oxide Classic Bands CMT Noal Cohen The Concert Database Concert Vault Concord Music Group Cultural Equity|
|Dangerous Minds De Flamenco Discaholic Corner The Discographer Discography of American Historical Recordings Doug Payne Sound Insights Downtown Music Gallery Drummerworld|
|EFI (European Free Improvisation) Encyclopedia Com Stian Erikson ESP-DISK|
|Fiddler Magazine The Flamenco Experience Flat International Free Form Free Jazz Research Fresh Sound Records Funky 16 Corners Funky Czech-In|
|Getty Images Ghana Web Gibson Grape Wrath Guitar Music Guitars 101|
|George Harrson Andrey Henkin Hep Cat The History of Rock n Roll Honking Duck (78 rpm)|
|IMDb International Jazz Productions Internet Archive IsraBox iTunes|
|Jackojazz Jazz Archeology Jazz @ the Albert Jazz Discographies Jazz Documentation Jazz History Database Jazz House Jazz - Improvised Music Jazzlists Jazzology Jazz Portal (Джаз-портал) Jazz Realities JSTOR Just Gospel|
|Hitoshi Katta Gene Krupa|
|Last FM Library of Congress The Louisiana Weekly|
|Malaco Michael Minn Michigan Rock and Roll Legends MIG MTV Musica Brasiliensis The Musicians' Olympus Music Sales Classical|
|Naxos Never Stop Singing New York Downtown Scene|
|Oldies Com The Online Discographical Project (78 rpm) Organissimo Orkester Journalen|
|Percussive Arts Society Peter Losin Pittsburgh Music History Pledge   Polskie Radio Pop History Dig Portela Web Pytheas Center for Contemporary Music|
|Rag Piano Record Connexion Red Saunders Research Foundation Re Structures Rockabilly Hall of Fame Rock On Vinyl Rolling Stone Roots World Royal Family|
|Sabotage Times Sax On The Web Piero Scaruffi Schott Seven45Rpm Smithsonian Songkick (concerts) Songwriters Hall of Fame Soul Tracks Soul Walking Sunnyside Records Allan Sutherland Svanga-Benga|
|Take Your Time! (ごゆっくりどうぞ!) Tinfoil (cylinders) Top Twenty Club tradjazzradio|
|University of California Press|
|Vamos a Guarachar! Verve Music Group|
|Way Back Attack White Doo Wop Collector Who Is the Monk World Cat The World of Marion-Net E-zines (big deal)|
The LC (Library of Congress) is used rarely. Though such as copyrights at the LC would be the final word in much the LC is a labyrinthine process for discographical purposes. Other sources, such as discogs, are considerably more direct. God knows how long this list of credits should be, even as I've necessarily concentrated it. I've not, for example, included the websites of most individual artists or groups unless they contained substantial discographies beyond their own. Though such are at times excellent sources, they generally aren't designed for discographical reasons. Nor could one hope to list the host of individual authors per various websites above. As for countless other credits lacking, I don't know what to say but admit that, yeah, someone got into the cake and I've got frosting on my face.
Finally, our all-important server has been Gator for several years. Cheap, fast and helpful upon rare need.
Group & Last Name Index to Full History:
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